I originally made that video 4 years ago, so yeah, it's not perfect and my own understanding was still evolving as well, which is why I am beating around the bush so much. But by now I have really made an effort to cut to to the point. It might not always seem that way, but generally speaking I am open minded and perfectly willing to talk or even do a stream with you.
Actually even back then I had already done a bunch of streams with a bunch of relatively well known Satanists and Luciferians.
But of course, just like with other religions, there are different denominations. So whatever branch you belong to, might not be representative of someone from another branch. So my portrayal is based on the people I spoke with before, so yes it might not be representative of your branch. That's not because I am misrepresenting your branch but because I don't know your branch because we haven't talked yet. But if you want to present your branch and your views and set the record straight so to say, we can do that.
Also, speaking of branches, the branch I am actually criticizing isn't even "mainstream" Luciferianism at all, but is what's commonly referred to as "Christian Gnosticism". It's just that back then I didn't quite understand yet that that's what it's called. But of course the term is misleading anyway, cause it's anything but Christian and it really is a form of Luciferiansim though it's not "mainstream" Luciferianism and might be very different from your branch.
Anyway, as Luciferians love to point out, Isaiah 14 (which is where in the King James Bible Lucifer is mentioned as the Latin word for morning star) is not at all referring to the devil nor to his alleged fall from heaven but actually to a perfectly "normal" human whose fall from WORLDLY power is LIKENED to the fall of the MORNING STAR from the SKY.
And that's why Luciferians always insist that in the Bible Lucifer isn't the devil and as such isn't in the Bible and I agree. That said, the way I see it, Luciferians themselves ARE (kinda) mentioned right in Isaiah 14 - or at least that's the way I see it. Cause it actually refers to a perfectly human Pagan (wannabe) leader who hates, slanders and persecutes the believers in Jehovah and seeks not just worldly money and power, but in his boundless arrogance, blasphemy and delusions of grandeur seeks to not only equal God the Creator and occupy his domain, but to surpass him.
And if you know anything about "Christian" Gnostics, you know that they are EXACTLY these types of people, so that's actually what I meant and your branch of Luciferianism might very well be very different from that and I am totally aware of that and I am not saying otherwise.
Hi! I'm glad you managed to talk about what you wanted. Do you want to ask a Luciferian any questions, or are you just conflating ideals?
I originally made that video 4 years ago, so yeah, it's not perfect and my own understanding was still evolving as well, which is why I am beating around the bush so much. But by now I have really made an effort to cut to to the point. It might not always seem that way, but generally speaking I am open minded and perfectly willing to talk or even do a stream with you.
Actually even back then I had already done a bunch of streams with a bunch of relatively well known Satanists and Luciferians.
But of course, just like with other religions, there are different denominations. So whatever branch you belong to, might not be representative of someone from another branch. So my portrayal is based on the people I spoke with before, so yes it might not be representative of your branch. That's not because I am misrepresenting your branch but because I don't know your branch because we haven't talked yet. But if you want to present your branch and your views and set the record straight so to say, we can do that.
Also, speaking of branches, the branch I am actually criticizing isn't even "mainstream" Luciferianism at all, but is what's commonly referred to as "Christian Gnosticism". It's just that back then I didn't quite understand yet that that's what it's called. But of course the term is misleading anyway, cause it's anything but Christian and it really is a form of Luciferiansim though it's not "mainstream" Luciferianism and might be very different from your branch.
Anyway, as Luciferians love to point out, Isaiah 14 (which is where in the King James Bible Lucifer is mentioned as the Latin word for morning star) is not at all referring to the devil nor to his alleged fall from heaven but actually to a perfectly "normal" human whose fall from WORLDLY power is LIKENED to the fall of the MORNING STAR from the SKY.
And that's why Luciferians always insist that in the Bible Lucifer isn't the devil and as such isn't in the Bible and I agree. That said, the way I see it, Luciferians themselves ARE (kinda) mentioned right in Isaiah 14 - or at least that's the way I see it. Cause it actually refers to a perfectly human Pagan (wannabe) leader who hates, slanders and persecutes the believers in Jehovah and seeks not just worldly money and power, but in his boundless arrogance, blasphemy and delusions of grandeur seeks to not only equal God the Creator and occupy his domain, but to surpass him.
And if you know anything about "Christian" Gnostics, you know that they are EXACTLY these types of people, so that's actually what I meant and your branch of Luciferianism might very well be very different from that and I am totally aware of that and I am not saying otherwise.