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I thought some more about Joker 2 and I am not sure anymore if Warner Bros was really just doing it for the money. I mean at some point they must have realized that Todd Phillips was just using the sequel to troll them and the fans, yet still they gave him a budget as big as Titanic and let him retain complete creative control. And after all that wasn't the first time he did something like that as he has done the exact same thing with Hangover 3 - again giving a middle finger to the studio (same studio BTW) and the fans. So they knew full well what he was doing, so the question becomes why did Warner Bros let him get away with that (again)?

And I am starting to think that they might have actually WANTED him to do it that way. To quote the Joker (the real one); "it's not about the money, it's about sending a message". So besides a screw you, what was the message they were sending to the fans?

Of course I don't know that for sure; but do you remember how when the first Joker came out all the mainstream media hated that Arthur Fleck was a character that was relatable to incels and just generally people who felt dissatisfied with society and politics. So basically it appealed to political activists, which I guess would have been fine if it would have just been the ones on the left, but it appealed to everyone and the media industry absolutely hated that. So I think by deconstructing and destroying the Artur Fleck Joker in Joker 2 it was their way of correcting what they thought of as a mistake they made.

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